1. da li osobe koje imaju vitiligo treba posebno da obracaju paznju na ishranu i u kom smislu?
2. sto znaci vitiligo -70?
3. da li osobe koje imaju vitiligo treba posebno da obracaju paznju na njegu koze (pored suncanja, krema za suncanje i preparata propisanih od strane doktora) u smislu nekih drugih krema, losiona i sl?
4. ukoliko je neko koristio protopik i elidel da li je pomoglo ili nije
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Vitiligo - par novih pitanja
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1. nehyoki napisao:1. da li osobe koje imaju vitiligo treba posebno da obracaju paznju na ishranu i u kom smislu?
2. sto znaci vitiligo -70?
3. da li osobe koje imaju vitiligo treba posebno da obracaju paznju na njegu koze (pored suncanja, krema za suncanje i preparata propisanih od strane doktora) u smislu nekih drugih krema, losiona i sl?
4. ukoliko je neko koristio protopik i elidel da li je pomoglo ili nije
hvala
2. ne znam
3. ne
4. sve zavisi od tipa vitiliga, nije svaki isti. Pomenute masti se koriste samo prema preporuci dermatologa i naravno da ima slucajeva kada je terapija bila uspesna
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Vitiligo je stanje (JOSH JEDNOM DA NAPOMENEM STANJE A NE OBOLJENJE) uzrokovano gubitkom celija koje stvaraju pigment.
Najveca sumnja pada na autoimunost, da je organizam jednostavno autoimuno odreagovvao na sopstvene celije i da ih unishtava (upravo zato se vecem postotku javlja kod osoba koje vec imaju neko autoimuno oboljenje).
Jedino se preporuchuje zashtita koze losionima koji ujedno shtite od UVa i UVb zraka.
Najveca sumnja pada na autoimunost, da je organizam jednostavno autoimuno odreagovvao na sopstvene celije i da ih unishtava (upravo zato se vecem postotku javlja kod osoba koje vec imaju neko autoimuno oboljenje).
Jedino se preporuchuje zashtita koze losionima koji ujedno shtite od UVa i UVb zraka.
Zdravlje je stanje potpunog telesnog (fizičkog), duševnog (psihičkog) i socijalnog blagostanja, a ne samo odsustvo bolesti i iznemoglosti.
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Vitiligo Master
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Lek za Vitiligo
Dragi moji
S obzirom da mnogi od Vas vuku sa sobom odredjene tragove ( nadam se samo fizicike prirode ) prouzrokovane vitiligom i s obzirom da sam i ja jedan od Vas,sve nas povezuje zajednicka potraga za pronalskom resenja. Nudim Vam na prodaju aparate Dermalight 80 UVB za lecenje vitiliga,psorijaze i ekcema. Prethodni uvod je bitan s aspekta pojavljivanja raznoraznih prevaranata koji nude sve i svasta po ovom pitanju i odstranjivanja mene iz grupe takvih, s obzirom da imam (istina jos u malim tragovima) vitiligo u predelu lica. Ukoliko ste zainteresovani za navedeni proizvod,a cije specifikacije i dejstvo mozete pogledati na sajtovima www.hybec.com ili na www.ebay.com, Proizvod dolazi u original pakovanju cije doziranje i nacin upotrebe se moraju dogovoriti sa dermatologom.
Molimo Vas da me kontaktirate na 063/546-602. Borkovic Milan
S obzirom da mnogi od Vas vuku sa sobom odredjene tragove ( nadam se samo fizicike prirode ) prouzrokovane vitiligom i s obzirom da sam i ja jedan od Vas,sve nas povezuje zajednicka potraga za pronalskom resenja. Nudim Vam na prodaju aparate Dermalight 80 UVB za lecenje vitiliga,psorijaze i ekcema. Prethodni uvod je bitan s aspekta pojavljivanja raznoraznih prevaranata koji nude sve i svasta po ovom pitanju i odstranjivanja mene iz grupe takvih, s obzirom da imam (istina jos u malim tragovima) vitiligo u predelu lica. Ukoliko ste zainteresovani za navedeni proizvod,a cije specifikacije i dejstvo mozete pogledati na sajtovima www.hybec.com ili na www.ebay.com, Proizvod dolazi u original pakovanju cije doziranje i nacin upotrebe se moraju dogovoriti sa dermatologom.
Molimo Vas da me kontaktirate na 063/546-602. Borkovic Milan
Vitiligo - moje iskustvo
Pozdrav svima... Ukratko iznecu svoje iskustvo sa Vitiligom koji imam vec petnaestak godina... Dugo vremena nisam pokusavao nista da ucinim jer sam od lekara opšte prakse dobio informaciju da se vitiligo ne leci, a imao sam bele pecate na mestima koje se inace ne vide... Medjutim, od pre par godina pojavile su se depigmentirani delovi na licu i po prstima, tako da sam poceo da tražim način da to saniram...
Prošle godine sam oko šest meseci koristio Vitix krem i tablete u kombinaciji sa vitaminom B12 (u Bgdu sam našao neke američke tablete Neuro B12 complex, prilično skupe) i sve to sa sunčanjem tokom leta... Primetio sam blaga poboljšanja na licu ali vrlo slaba... Uz to Vitix krem izaziva zatamljenja pigmentovanog oboda kože oko svetlih delova što samo pogoršava estetsko stanje kože, ali primetio sam pojave pigmentovanih pega po svetlim delovima posebno u vreme intezivnog sunčanja...
Od pre dva i po meseca koristim krem Elidel (pimecrolimus 0.1%) inače krema namenjena za lečenje ekcema (može se povoljno naći u Beogradu) , uz sunčanje sa zaštitnim kremama i povremeno korišćenje vitamina B12, ali i Tana (susamovog butera) koji prirodno obiluje vitaminima B grupe... U odnosu na Vitix krem, rezultati su spektakularni... na licu (oko očiju) svetla koža je prirodno počela da tamni, a raniji tamni pečati da se šire... Na žalost, na rukama su rezultati manje primetni...
Treba reći, da je Elidel navodno zamena za Protopic 01%, trebalo bi da slično deluje i namenjen je za lečenje ekcema... takođe u uputstvu piše da treba izbegavati sunčanje jer je fotosenzitivan, što ja baš i nisam poštovao, naprotiv... Moje iskustvo je da bez sunca nemam previše rezultata... Verovatno da i UV lampa pomaže zimi kao zamena za sunčanje...
Uz ovu kremu nameravam da probam i kremu Placental koja se pravi u Zemunu... Ona bi trebalo da prehranjuje ćelije kože i pomaže repigmentaciju...
Nadam se da razmena iskustava može drugima pomoći, jer sam se i ja tako uputio, srećom sa nekim pozitivnim rezultatima... Na žalost, radi se o takvoj bolesti za koju dermatolozi nemaju pouzdana rešenja, a različiti tretmani lečenja kod različitih osoba daju različite rezultate...
Prošle godine sam oko šest meseci koristio Vitix krem i tablete u kombinaciji sa vitaminom B12 (u Bgdu sam našao neke američke tablete Neuro B12 complex, prilično skupe) i sve to sa sunčanjem tokom leta... Primetio sam blaga poboljšanja na licu ali vrlo slaba... Uz to Vitix krem izaziva zatamljenja pigmentovanog oboda kože oko svetlih delova što samo pogoršava estetsko stanje kože, ali primetio sam pojave pigmentovanih pega po svetlim delovima posebno u vreme intezivnog sunčanja...
Od pre dva i po meseca koristim krem Elidel (pimecrolimus 0.1%) inače krema namenjena za lečenje ekcema (može se povoljno naći u Beogradu) , uz sunčanje sa zaštitnim kremama i povremeno korišćenje vitamina B12, ali i Tana (susamovog butera) koji prirodno obiluje vitaminima B grupe... U odnosu na Vitix krem, rezultati su spektakularni... na licu (oko očiju) svetla koža je prirodno počela da tamni, a raniji tamni pečati da se šire... Na žalost, na rukama su rezultati manje primetni...
Treba reći, da je Elidel navodno zamena za Protopic 01%, trebalo bi da slično deluje i namenjen je za lečenje ekcema... takođe u uputstvu piše da treba izbegavati sunčanje jer je fotosenzitivan, što ja baš i nisam poštovao, naprotiv... Moje iskustvo je da bez sunca nemam previše rezultata... Verovatno da i UV lampa pomaže zimi kao zamena za sunčanje...
Uz ovu kremu nameravam da probam i kremu Placental koja se pravi u Zemunu... Ona bi trebalo da prehranjuje ćelije kože i pomaže repigmentaciju...
Nadam se da razmena iskustava može drugima pomoći, jer sam se i ja tako uputio, srećom sa nekim pozitivnim rezultatima... Na žalost, radi se o takvoj bolesti za koju dermatolozi nemaju pouzdana rešenja, a različiti tretmani lečenja kod različitih osoba daju različite rezultate...
A evo sta, izmedju ostalog, kaže Wikipedija i reference sa nje:
Studies have also shown that immunomodulator creams such as Protopic and Elidel also cause repigmentation in some cases, when used with UVB Narrowband treatments.[10][11]
Reference:
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Kwinter J, Pelletier J, Khambalia A, Pope E (2007). "High-potency steroid use in children with vitiligo: a retrospective study". J. Am. Acad. Dermatol. 56 (2): 236–41
Tacrolimus ointment 0.1% produces repigmentation in patients with vitiligo: results of a prospective patient series.Tanghetti EA.
Center for Dermatology and Laser Surgery, Sacramento, California, USA. [email protected]
The cause of the selective melanocyte destruction in vitiligo may be due to an autoimmune disorder. A series of 15 patients with vitiligo were treated with a topical immunomodulator, tacrolimus ointment 0.1%, twice daily for a minimum of 45 days. Thirteen patients (87%) experienced at least partial repigmentation, and 3 of those patients had greater than 75% repigmentation. Patients with the greatest treatment response likely benefited from concomitant natural sunlight exposure. Further studies investigating the safety and efficacy of tacrolimus ointment either as monotherapy or in combination with other therapeutic measures are warranted.
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Silverberg NB, Lin P, Travis L, Farley-Li J, Mancini AJ, Wagner AM, Chamlin SL, Paller AS.
Department of Dermatology, Division of Pediatric Dermatology, St Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY, USA.
BACKGROUND: Vitiligo is an autoimmune disorder characterized by loss of pigmentation. Phototherapy and application of topical corticosteroids are most commonly prescribed. However, these therapies are often not effective and use of corticosteroids on the face may lead to cutaneous atrophy, telangiectasia, and ocular complications. OBJECTIVE: We sought to assess the efficacy of topical tacrolimus ointment in the treatment of pediatric vitiligo. METHODS: A retrospective review was performed of 57 pediatric patients with vitiligo at two clinical sites. Patients were treated with tacrolimus ointment for at least 3 months. Clinical responses were documented during clinic visits, and by pretacrolimus and posttacrolimus photography. RESULTS: At least partial response was noted to tacrolimus ointment on the head and neck in 89%, and on the trunk and extremities in 63% of patients. Facial vitiligo of the segmental type showed the best response rate. Two patients initially experienced burning on application. CONCLUSIONS: Topical tacrolimus ointment is an effective alternative therapy for childhood vitiligo, particularly involving the head and neck.
Studies have also shown that immunomodulator creams such as Protopic and Elidel also cause repigmentation in some cases, when used with UVB Narrowband treatments.[10][11]
Reference:
10)
Kwinter J, Pelletier J, Khambalia A, Pope E (2007). "High-potency steroid use in children with vitiligo: a retrospective study". J. Am. Acad. Dermatol. 56 (2): 236–41
Tacrolimus ointment 0.1% produces repigmentation in patients with vitiligo: results of a prospective patient series.Tanghetti EA.
Center for Dermatology and Laser Surgery, Sacramento, California, USA. [email protected]
The cause of the selective melanocyte destruction in vitiligo may be due to an autoimmune disorder. A series of 15 patients with vitiligo were treated with a topical immunomodulator, tacrolimus ointment 0.1%, twice daily for a minimum of 45 days. Thirteen patients (87%) experienced at least partial repigmentation, and 3 of those patients had greater than 75% repigmentation. Patients with the greatest treatment response likely benefited from concomitant natural sunlight exposure. Further studies investigating the safety and efficacy of tacrolimus ointment either as monotherapy or in combination with other therapeutic measures are warranted.
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Silverberg NB, Lin P, Travis L, Farley-Li J, Mancini AJ, Wagner AM, Chamlin SL, Paller AS.
Department of Dermatology, Division of Pediatric Dermatology, St Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY, USA.
BACKGROUND: Vitiligo is an autoimmune disorder characterized by loss of pigmentation. Phototherapy and application of topical corticosteroids are most commonly prescribed. However, these therapies are often not effective and use of corticosteroids on the face may lead to cutaneous atrophy, telangiectasia, and ocular complications. OBJECTIVE: We sought to assess the efficacy of topical tacrolimus ointment in the treatment of pediatric vitiligo. METHODS: A retrospective review was performed of 57 pediatric patients with vitiligo at two clinical sites. Patients were treated with tacrolimus ointment for at least 3 months. Clinical responses were documented during clinic visits, and by pretacrolimus and posttacrolimus photography. RESULTS: At least partial response was noted to tacrolimus ointment on the head and neck in 89%, and on the trunk and extremities in 63% of patients. Facial vitiligo of the segmental type showed the best response rate. Two patients initially experienced burning on application. CONCLUSIONS: Topical tacrolimus ointment is an effective alternative therapy for childhood vitiligo, particularly involving the head and neck.
Jos malo nauke...
Odusevljen pozitivnom iskustvu o kome sam već pisao (tretman kremom Elidel (pimecrolimus 1%) u kombinaciji sa sunčanjem) javio sam se na sve forume koji se bave vitiligom, ali i dalje trazio detaljnije informacije... Na medicinskom sajtu http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed pronasao sam vise strucnih tekstova koji se bave raznim metodama lecenja vitiliga... evo ispod apstrakta jednog istrazivanja koje pokazuje statistiku razlicitih metoda... ja bih svima savetovao medicinski potvrdjene metode lecenja, počevši od onih koje su vam najpristupačnije... bilo da vas savetuje lekar ili da se sami posavetujete na internetu...
Targeted and combination treatments for vitiligo.
Comparative evaluation of different current modalities in 458 subjects.
Lotti T, Buggiani G, Troiano M, Assad GB, Delescluse J, De Giorgi V, Hercogova J.
Department of Dermatological Sciences, University of Florence, Florence, Italy. [email protected]
The current treatment of vitiligo is not satisfactory according to the opinions of both the patient population and the dermatologists. Recently, combination therapies have been introduced, which are both systemic and targeted (microphototherapy). To evaluate the effects of topical treatments given alone or in combination with 311-nm narrow-band microphototherapy. We evaluated the efficacy and safety of: (1) 311-nm narrow-band microphototherapy;(2) tacrolimus 0.1% ointment twice a day; (3) pimecrolimus 1% cream twice a day; (4) betamethasone dipropionate 0.05% cream twice a day; (5) calcipotriol ointment 50 microg/g twice a day; and (6) 10%l-phenylalanine cream twice a day, for the treatment of exclusively vitiligo patches. A 311-nm narrow-band microphototherapy (Bioskin) was given alone or in combination with the above-mentioned popular local treatments. Four hundred and seventy patients suffering from vitiligo that affected less than 10% of the skin surface were evaluated. The patients were divided into 11 groups according to the selected treatment modalities. Four hundred and fifty-eight patients completed the study period of 6 months. Excellent repigmentation (> 75%) was achieved by 72% of the patients in group 1, 76.5% in group 2, 76.1% in group 3, 90.2% in group 4, 75.6% in group 5, 74.8% in group 6, 61% in group 7, 54.6% in group 8, 71.2% in group 9, 59.1% in group 10, and 29.3% in group 11. Marked repigmentation (50-75%) was evident in 19.8% of the patients in group 1, 18.2% in group 2, 20.1% in group 3, 6.7% in group 4, 14.1% in group 5, 11.3% in group 6, 16.1% in group 7, 18.4% in group 8, 25% in group 9, 10.6% in group 10, and 8.1% in group 11. Moderate results (25-50% repigmentation) were seen in 4.6% of the patients in group 1, 3.3% in group 2, 2.7% in group 3, 2.2% in group 4, 7.4% in group 5, 10.1% in group 6, 18.4% in group 7, 21.7% in group 8, 2.1% in group 9, 27.1% in group 10, and 55% in group 11. Finally, minimal (< 25%) or no response was achieved in 3.6% of the patients in group 1, 2% in group 2, 1.1% in group 3, 0.9% in group 4, 2.9% in group 5, 3.8% in group 6, 4.5% in group 7, 5.3% in group 8, 1.75% in group 9, 3.2% in group 10, and 7.6% in group 11. Side effects were skin atrophy (76% in group 4 and 81% in group 9), stinging and burning (groups 2, 3, 7, and 8,). Targeted combination therapies in vitiligo are remarkably more effective than single treatments. When single treatments are considered alone, 311-nm narrow-band UVB microfocused phototherapy and 0.05% betamethasone dipropionate cream are the most effective treatments in our study. When combined therapies are chosen, 0.05% betamethasone dipropionate cream plus 311-nm narrow-band UVB microfocused phototherapy apparently give the highest repigmentation rate. In the short term, the only side-effects registered have been cutaneous atrophy with corticosteroid cream, and stinging and burning with 0.1% tacrolimus ointment and, less frequently, with 1% pimecrolimus cream.
PMID: 18727812 [PubMed - in process]
Targeted and combination treatments for vitiligo.
Comparative evaluation of different current modalities in 458 subjects.
Lotti T, Buggiani G, Troiano M, Assad GB, Delescluse J, De Giorgi V, Hercogova J.
Department of Dermatological Sciences, University of Florence, Florence, Italy. [email protected]
The current treatment of vitiligo is not satisfactory according to the opinions of both the patient population and the dermatologists. Recently, combination therapies have been introduced, which are both systemic and targeted (microphototherapy). To evaluate the effects of topical treatments given alone or in combination with 311-nm narrow-band microphototherapy. We evaluated the efficacy and safety of: (1) 311-nm narrow-band microphototherapy;(2) tacrolimus 0.1% ointment twice a day; (3) pimecrolimus 1% cream twice a day; (4) betamethasone dipropionate 0.05% cream twice a day; (5) calcipotriol ointment 50 microg/g twice a day; and (6) 10%l-phenylalanine cream twice a day, for the treatment of exclusively vitiligo patches. A 311-nm narrow-band microphototherapy (Bioskin) was given alone or in combination with the above-mentioned popular local treatments. Four hundred and seventy patients suffering from vitiligo that affected less than 10% of the skin surface were evaluated. The patients were divided into 11 groups according to the selected treatment modalities. Four hundred and fifty-eight patients completed the study period of 6 months. Excellent repigmentation (> 75%) was achieved by 72% of the patients in group 1, 76.5% in group 2, 76.1% in group 3, 90.2% in group 4, 75.6% in group 5, 74.8% in group 6, 61% in group 7, 54.6% in group 8, 71.2% in group 9, 59.1% in group 10, and 29.3% in group 11. Marked repigmentation (50-75%) was evident in 19.8% of the patients in group 1, 18.2% in group 2, 20.1% in group 3, 6.7% in group 4, 14.1% in group 5, 11.3% in group 6, 16.1% in group 7, 18.4% in group 8, 25% in group 9, 10.6% in group 10, and 8.1% in group 11. Moderate results (25-50% repigmentation) were seen in 4.6% of the patients in group 1, 3.3% in group 2, 2.7% in group 3, 2.2% in group 4, 7.4% in group 5, 10.1% in group 6, 18.4% in group 7, 21.7% in group 8, 2.1% in group 9, 27.1% in group 10, and 55% in group 11. Finally, minimal (< 25%) or no response was achieved in 3.6% of the patients in group 1, 2% in group 2, 1.1% in group 3, 0.9% in group 4, 2.9% in group 5, 3.8% in group 6, 4.5% in group 7, 5.3% in group 8, 1.75% in group 9, 3.2% in group 10, and 7.6% in group 11. Side effects were skin atrophy (76% in group 4 and 81% in group 9), stinging and burning (groups 2, 3, 7, and 8,). Targeted combination therapies in vitiligo are remarkably more effective than single treatments. When single treatments are considered alone, 311-nm narrow-band UVB microfocused phototherapy and 0.05% betamethasone dipropionate cream are the most effective treatments in our study. When combined therapies are chosen, 0.05% betamethasone dipropionate cream plus 311-nm narrow-band UVB microfocused phototherapy apparently give the highest repigmentation rate. In the short term, the only side-effects registered have been cutaneous atrophy with corticosteroid cream, and stinging and burning with 0.1% tacrolimus ointment and, less frequently, with 1% pimecrolimus cream.
PMID: 18727812 [PubMed - in process]
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Sanja tornjanski
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Re: Vitiligo - par novih pitanja
Moj sin je dobio vitiligo u svojoj 8 godini.Prvo smo otisli kod doktora Lalosevica ali nije bilo rezultata.Kasnije smo otisli kod doktora Karadaglica on nam je dao mast protopic od 0,1.Samo na licu fleke su se povukle ali na stomaku nisu i nisu oko noktiju ruku.Ako neko imama nesto sto mu pomaze sto je uspesno nek nam se javi.
Re: Vitiligo - par novih pitanja
Prve simptome vitiliga primetio sam pre oko 2 meseca u vidu izneneadnog osipa i svraba po sakama, a zatim su se javile brojne sitnije i krupnije pege po sakama, podlakcicama, ispod pazuha i ... . Dermatolog mi je potvrdio moju sumnju i onda sam lepo precesljao sve forume. U mnogim forumima sam naisao na tekstove o povoljnom dejstvu melema i caja koji spravlja g. Rangelova iz Dimitrovgrada. Narucio sam tu kremu i caj i poceo da ih koristim pocetkom juna. Pored toga, koristim i kompleks vit. B (B50). Vec posle 20-ak dana nestale su mnoge sitne pegice, a vece (do 0.5cm) su pocele da se smanjuju. Svaki dan sam silom prilika izlozen suncu i primecujem da delovi koji su vise izlozeni, brze vracaju boju. Evo, posle skoro mesec dana, na desnoj ruci se skoro i ne primecuju pege, a na levoj je ostalo nekoliko krupnijih koje se postepeno smanjuju. Promene ispod pazuha nisam ni mazao tako da i nema nikakvog poboljsanja. Uvek sam bio skeptik prema lekovima od travara ali sad je na mene uticao i komsija ciji sin je imao veliku pegu na bradi i vratu, a od nje je posle godinu dana ostala jedva vidljiva pega velicine novcica. To je moje iskustvo, pa ko hoce ... Veliki pozdrav
. Dermatolog mi je potvrdio moju sumnju i onda sam lepo precesljao sve forume. U mnogim forumima sam naisao na tekstove o povoljnom dejstvu melema i caja koji spravlja g. Rangelova iz Dimitrovgrada. Narucio sam tu kremu i caj i poceo da ih koristim pocetkom juna. Pored toga, koristim i kompleks vit. B (B50). Vec posle 20-ak dana nestale su mnoge sitne pegice, a vece (do 0.5cm) su pocele da se smanjuju. Svaki dan sam silom prilika izlozen suncu i primecujem da delovi koji su vise izlozeni, brze vracaju boju. Evo, posle skoro mesec dana, na desnoj ruci se skoro i ne primecuju pege, a na levoj je ostalo nekoliko krupnijih koje se postepeno smanjuju. Promene ispod pazuha nisam ni mazao tako da i nema nikakvog poboljsanja. Uvek sam bio skeptik prema lekovima od travara ali sad je na mene uticao i komsija ciji sin je imao veliku pegu na bradi i vratu, a od nje je posle godinu dana ostala jedva vidljiva pega velicine novcica. To je moje iskustvo, pa ko hoce ... Veliki pozdrav-
rebelderbd96
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Re: Vitiligo - par novih pitanja
Imam 15 godina i jedno vreme sam imala vitiligo...Dok sam bila u bolnici zbog zeluca,doktori se uplasili kad su videli fleke,i pomislili da je neka opasna bolest...xD Meni je vitiligo nestao suncanjem..dok kod mog tate ne nestaje,doktori su mu preporucivali neke vitamine koje su za to...ocito je nasledan ..:/
Re: Vitiligo - par novih pitanja
Pozdrav pre svega,nova sam ovde
E ovako,ja imam vitiligo po šakama i oko ociju,jos od pre nekih 7-8 god,vremenom se širi i nikako ne povlači,nema sta sve nisam isprobala sve moguce preparate i lekare i travare i nista,ali bukvalno nista i nije pomoglo ...ne bih ovim da izgubite nadu ali ja sam bas nekako odustala od potrage za lekom .
Mozda je bezveze sto odustajem ali ne znam sta bih jos trebalo da probam,jedino sto nisam probala je ono ste pominjali Dermalight 80 UVB.
Bilo bi lepo kad bi me neko ubedio da to makar 90% da pomaze
Pozdrav svima !
E ovako,ja imam vitiligo po šakama i oko ociju,jos od pre nekih 7-8 god,vremenom se širi i nikako ne povlači,nema sta sve nisam isprobala sve moguce preparate i lekare i travare i nista,ali bukvalno nista i nije pomoglo ...ne bih ovim da izgubite nadu ali ja sam bas nekako odustala od potrage za lekom .
Mozda je bezveze sto odustajem ali ne znam sta bih jos trebalo da probam,jedino sto nisam probala je ono ste pominjali Dermalight 80 UVB.
Bilo bi lepo kad bi me neko ubedio da to makar 90% da pomaze
Pozdrav svima !